I do have to point out that Robert Reich cited actual examples. What about those can we say he is wrong? I think it's a terrible negotiating argument to say we should give up our principles as our opening move. It also seems like the whole idea that our values can be moved around as if they don't really matter to us is wrong in so many ways.
There's room to change with the times. Reich is right to point out the problem of not going with AOC on Ways and Means vs Connely. That's a blatant decision to move nowhere. Didn't Democrats just lose ground on some demographics? And what about the people who lost interest and stayed home?
I wrote a bunch and then lost it. As I get older I seem to hit the wrong keys more frequently. My point was that "the center" for many is not what I called "the Center." Given that the surveys are right, then it seems true that many are not on the path with me and do not see us as moving toward an "ideal" (ever capable of perfection) goal. They think we have reached, even exceeded, the best that can be achieved and are now wandering either too far down a utopian path, or have gotten lost in a side road. It is not a time to pause (the horse is shaking the reign according to Frost), but we must try, as this is a democracy, to gather a majority of the public to join us on the path. And this is a matter of "tactics." Release the Kraken? I honestly don't know. If we do not gain more than a foothold with the next generation, we are in deep trouble. Does AOC speak for them (to them)? I don't know. I think that apathy and complaisancy is at work here. What is increasing true is that we haven't found our voice, and with some Trump has.
It’s all in the specifics. Let’s take JD Vances’s various comments about liberals like: “To be a little stark about this, I think we have to go to war against the anti-child ideology that exists in our country,” As a side note, this may be a nod to the white Christian nationalists that says things like Satan has convinced the Jews manipulated Christians to not have children to go against God’s commandment to be fruitful and multiply. It’s a comment about media a culture.
He said this even though he skipped the vote on extending the child tax credits and not a single Republican in Congress voted for it on the floor. The Harris campaign should have gone all in tearing him and Trump apart. And Trump talking about crime even though all the data says crime spiked when Trump was president and has fallen since. The Harris campaign should have gone all out. The candidates should have shown up on every show and blasted Trump, maybe even with charts. Stay true while making sure our words speak to people.
I agree that there exists a "center," but since at least the Reagan presidency it has tended to move further and further right. When one side hardens its position and hugs the extreme, the other side's compromises inevitably move closer and shrink the center. Clinton's shifts on welfare are a case in point - a Democrat promoting a position Republicans would once have been proud of.
Good point. We can view such shifts as a rejection of the limitless path.We went asfar as we could safely and then went on too far. This is seeing the center as a "sweet" spot. Compare Niebuhr's reading of the sermon on the mount. Also in popular culture "the unreachable stars."
I do have to point out that Robert Reich cited actual examples. What about those can we say he is wrong? I think it's a terrible negotiating argument to say we should give up our principles as our opening move. It also seems like the whole idea that our values can be moved around as if they don't really matter to us is wrong in so many ways.
There's room to change with the times. Reich is right to point out the problem of not going with AOC on Ways and Means vs Connely. That's a blatant decision to move nowhere. Didn't Democrats just lose ground on some demographics? And what about the people who lost interest and stayed home?
I wrote a bunch and then lost it. As I get older I seem to hit the wrong keys more frequently. My point was that "the center" for many is not what I called "the Center." Given that the surveys are right, then it seems true that many are not on the path with me and do not see us as moving toward an "ideal" (ever capable of perfection) goal. They think we have reached, even exceeded, the best that can be achieved and are now wandering either too far down a utopian path, or have gotten lost in a side road. It is not a time to pause (the horse is shaking the reign according to Frost), but we must try, as this is a democracy, to gather a majority of the public to join us on the path. And this is a matter of "tactics." Release the Kraken? I honestly don't know. If we do not gain more than a foothold with the next generation, we are in deep trouble. Does AOC speak for them (to them)? I don't know. I think that apathy and complaisancy is at work here. What is increasing true is that we haven't found our voice, and with some Trump has.
It’s all in the specifics. Let’s take JD Vances’s various comments about liberals like: “To be a little stark about this, I think we have to go to war against the anti-child ideology that exists in our country,” As a side note, this may be a nod to the white Christian nationalists that says things like Satan has convinced the Jews manipulated Christians to not have children to go against God’s commandment to be fruitful and multiply. It’s a comment about media a culture.
He said this even though he skipped the vote on extending the child tax credits and not a single Republican in Congress voted for it on the floor. The Harris campaign should have gone all in tearing him and Trump apart. And Trump talking about crime even though all the data says crime spiked when Trump was president and has fallen since. The Harris campaign should have gone all out. The candidates should have shown up on every show and blasted Trump, maybe even with charts. Stay true while making sure our words speak to people.
I agree that there exists a "center," but since at least the Reagan presidency it has tended to move further and further right. When one side hardens its position and hugs the extreme, the other side's compromises inevitably move closer and shrink the center. Clinton's shifts on welfare are a case in point - a Democrat promoting a position Republicans would once have been proud of.
Good point. We can view such shifts as a rejection of the limitless path.We went asfar as we could safely and then went on too far. This is seeing the center as a "sweet" spot. Compare Niebuhr's reading of the sermon on the mount. Also in popular culture "the unreachable stars."